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		<title>By: Edith</title>
		<link>http://www.askthewaterdoctor.com/2009/04/update-on-no-salt-water-softeners/comment-page-2/#comment-2128</link>
		<dc:creator>Edith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please warn people about the Excalibur water softener from Barrie Ontario.  Brian Nogler of PURE WATER AND AIR SOLUTIONS  sold me one with a guarantee that if it did not work according to manufacturers specifications  he would refund my money  and remove the softener.   The softener does not work  nor does the word of Brian Nogler.   He has not come to refund my money  or remove the system.    I have contacted Excalibur of Barrie Ontario   because on their web site it states   there is no water problem they cannot fix.  I assume that constitutes false advertising.   If you cannot print this email the way I have sent it   please modify it   so people can be fore warned of these companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please warn people about the Excalibur water softener from Barrie Ontario.  Brian Nogler of PURE WATER AND AIR SOLUTIONS  sold me one with a guarantee that if it did not work according to manufacturers specifications  he would refund my money  and remove the softener.   The softener does not work  nor does the word of Brian Nogler.   He has not come to refund my money  or remove the system.    I have contacted Excalibur of Barrie Ontario   because on their web site it states   there is no water problem they cannot fix.  I assume that constitutes false advertising.   If you cannot print this email the way I have sent it   please modify it   so people can be fore warned of these companies.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as you adequately size the pipe it should not present a problem.  Do you have any iron or manganese in the water?  Does it stain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as you adequately size the pipe it should not present a problem.  Do you have any iron or manganese in the water?  Does it stain?</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in a 1890&#039;s farmhouse with very hard water from a well.  We want to put in a Watts system or similar. Ideally we&#039;d put the tank next to the water heater, but the cold water lines to the laundry, downstairs bath, and kitchen branch off before the water heater. The entry point of the water line is through a cement slab and up into the wall space behind the kitchen cabinets, next to a shallow crawl space below the family room!  To install an upright water conditioner would mean sending a pipe through the crawl space to the cellar 15 ft away and back again.  Will this distance affect the water pressure to the rest of the house? 
Any thoughts/comments would be great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in a 1890&#8242;s farmhouse with very hard water from a well.  We want to put in a Watts system or similar. Ideally we&#8217;d put the tank next to the water heater, but the cold water lines to the laundry, downstairs bath, and kitchen branch off before the water heater. The entry point of the water line is through a cement slab and up into the wall space behind the kitchen cabinets, next to a shallow crawl space below the family room!  To install an upright water conditioner would mean sending a pipe through the crawl space to the cellar 15 ft away and back again.  Will this distance affect the water pressure to the rest of the house?<br />
Any thoughts/comments would be great!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. D,

Why don&#039;t I discuss Easy Water?  I guess it falls back to the fact that we have tested it.  I have one in my office and we have had lots of customers who we have interacted with about this product.  I am not impressed with it and I am even less impressed with their unethical marketing methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. D,</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t I discuss Easy Water?  I guess it falls back to the fact that we have tested it.  I have one in my office and we have had lots of customers who we have interacted with about this product.  I am not impressed with it and I am even less impressed with their unethical marketing methods.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had a Rainsoft salt water softner that quit working about a year ago.  The Rainsoft system was here when we moved in.  We had already had some bad experiences with Rainsoft in the past.  But when the unit broke down, we called to see what they would charge to come look at it.  They wanted $125 an hour just to tell us what was wrong with it, so we are looking to replace it.  However, since we were considering a replacement we wanted to go with a salt free unit.  As our house was built in the mid-seventies and has mostly copper water pipes and we also have a septic system.  We have municiple water which is supplied by the Floridan Aquifer in North Florida.  Below is the latest water quality report provded by the Town of Havana and Florida DEP:

Chlorine .6-1.15 ppm
Haloacetic Acids (HAA5) .5-4.64 ppb

&lt;strong&gt;The Water Doctor replied:&lt;/strong&gt;

The GreenWave Cascade will absolutely work here.
TTHM (Total trihalomethanes) 22.2-27.2 ppb
Alpha emitters (pCi/L) 1.9-3.6
Radium 226+228 or combined radium (pCi/L) 1.06-1.81
Antimony .2 ppb
Arsenic .1-2.5 ppb
Barium .028-.032 ppm
Chromium .3-.8 ppb
Cyanide 5 ppb
Floride .26-.47 ppm
Lead (point of entry) .2-.7 ppb
Mercury (inorganic) .1 ppb
Nickel .1-.3 ppb
Nitrate (as Nitrogen) .008-.093 ppm
Selenium .1-.8 ppb
Sodium 14-39 ppm
Thallium .1 ppb

Copper (tap water) .175 ppm
Lead (tap water) 2 ppb

Total Dissolved Solids 370-590 ppm

We see quite a bit of scaling, but not any rust, discolered or smells to our water.  Will the Greenwave Cascade System work for our water?  What type of system would you recommend for our water, pipes and septic system?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Paula - Havana, Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a Rainsoft salt water softner that quit working about a year ago.  The Rainsoft system was here when we moved in.  We had already had some bad experiences with Rainsoft in the past.  But when the unit broke down, we called to see what they would charge to come look at it.  They wanted $125 an hour just to tell us what was wrong with it, so we are looking to replace it.  However, since we were considering a replacement we wanted to go with a salt free unit.  As our house was built in the mid-seventies and has mostly copper water pipes and we also have a septic system.  We have municiple water which is supplied by the Floridan Aquifer in North Florida.  Below is the latest water quality report provded by the Town of Havana and Florida DEP:</p>
<p>Chlorine .6-1.15 ppm<br />
Haloacetic Acids (HAA5) .5-4.64 ppb</p>
<p><strong>The Water Doctor replied:</strong></p>
<p>The GreenWave Cascade will absolutely work here.<br />
TTHM (Total trihalomethanes) 22.2-27.2 ppb<br />
Alpha emitters (pCi/L) 1.9-3.6<br />
Radium 226+228 or combined radium (pCi/L) 1.06-1.81<br />
Antimony .2 ppb<br />
Arsenic .1-2.5 ppb<br />
Barium .028-.032 ppm<br />
Chromium .3-.8 ppb<br />
Cyanide 5 ppb<br />
Floride .26-.47 ppm<br />
Lead (point of entry) .2-.7 ppb<br />
Mercury (inorganic) .1 ppb<br />
Nickel .1-.3 ppb<br />
Nitrate (as Nitrogen) .008-.093 ppm<br />
Selenium .1-.8 ppb<br />
Sodium 14-39 ppm<br />
Thallium .1 ppb</p>
<p>Copper (tap water) .175 ppm<br />
Lead (tap water) 2 ppb</p>
<p>Total Dissolved Solids 370-590 ppm</p>
<p>We see quite a bit of scaling, but not any rust, discolered or smells to our water.  Will the Greenwave Cascade System work for our water?  What type of system would you recommend for our water, pipes and septic system?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your help.</p>
<p>Paula &#8211; Havana, Florida</p>
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		<title>By: mr. D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr. D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHy do you never discuss EasyWater? Its always Greenwave.  These guys have been doing this since 1986.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHy do you never discuss EasyWater? Its always Greenwave.  These guys have been doing this since 1986.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.askthewaterdoctor.com/2009/04/update-on-no-salt-water-softeners/comment-page-1/#comment-2009</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boh Szagala,

Good Luck!  If we can help, please let us know.

www.uswatersystems.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boh Szagala,</p>
<p>Good Luck!  If we can help, please let us know.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uswatersystems.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.uswatersystems.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: boh szagala</title>
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		<dc:creator>boh szagala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recently purchased a Pelican salt free &quot;water softener&quot; for our newer (3 year old) home..  We live in the country and have very hard water.  I switched from a Potasium based softener to Pelican, believing their statements.  WHAT A MISTAKE!! . We have white scale everywhere and I&#039;m very concerned about my new Marathon water heater...  I&#039;m within the 90 day waranty and will be returning this Pelican crap ASAP..  If anyone is considering Pelican, think twice..  I&#039;ll gladly share my experience...

                 boh  Ontario- CANADA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently purchased a Pelican salt free &#8220;water softener&#8221; for our newer (3 year old) home..  We live in the country and have very hard water.  I switched from a Potasium based softener to Pelican, believing their statements.  WHAT A MISTAKE!! . We have white scale everywhere and I&#8217;m very concerned about my new Marathon water heater&#8230;  I&#8217;m within the 90 day waranty and will be returning this Pelican crap ASAP..  If anyone is considering Pelican, think twice..  I&#8217;ll gladly share my experience&#8230;</p>
<p>                 boh  Ontario- CANADA</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

How do you sugar-coat a lie?  I can tell you that what you published above is FALSE.  NOT TRUE!  It will prevent scale (in most cases), but the soap aspect of it is TOTALL UNTRUE!  

Don&#039;t get me started!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>How do you sugar-coat a lie?  I can tell you that what you published above is FALSE.  NOT TRUE!  It will prevent scale (in most cases), but the soap aspect of it is TOTALL UNTRUE!  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me started!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water Doctor, I just moved into a house in which there is VERY hard water.  A plumber came to the house and talked to me about the Watts One Flow (OF844-12) system and said it would help with the hard water.  The house is brand new so I would like to do something before my Hot Water Heater and everything begin getting caked with the hard water minerals.  THe chlorine level of my water is .1 to 2.0 mg/L, Floride is .67 to 1.8 mg/L, Nitrates is .2 to 1.98 mg/L, Lead is 5 to 6.37 mg/L, and Copper is .67 to .886 mg/L.  I was looking into the US Water Systems GREENWAVE as well as the OneFlow by Watts.  Which would you recommend.  I was quoted around $1700 for the OneFlow for the parts and installation and I have yet to get quotes for the GreenWave systems.  Any recommendations?

&lt;strong&gt;The Water Doctor Replied:&lt;/strong&gt;

Watts One Flow is a commercial system.  It is my understanding that there is no warranty on it for residential applications.

With your level of chlorine I would recommend the GreenWave Ultra.  Here&#039;s the link:

http://www.uswatersystems.com/shop/products/GreenWave--Ultra-No%252dSalt%2C-Scale-Prevention-%26-Chlorine%7B47%7DChemical-Removal-System.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water Doctor, I just moved into a house in which there is VERY hard water.  A plumber came to the house and talked to me about the Watts One Flow (OF844-12) system and said it would help with the hard water.  The house is brand new so I would like to do something before my Hot Water Heater and everything begin getting caked with the hard water minerals.  THe chlorine level of my water is .1 to 2.0 mg/L, Floride is .67 to 1.8 mg/L, Nitrates is .2 to 1.98 mg/L, Lead is 5 to 6.37 mg/L, and Copper is .67 to .886 mg/L.  I was looking into the US Water Systems GREENWAVE as well as the OneFlow by Watts.  Which would you recommend.  I was quoted around $1700 for the OneFlow for the parts and installation and I have yet to get quotes for the GreenWave systems.  Any recommendations?</p>
<p><strong>The Water Doctor Replied:</strong></p>
<p>Watts One Flow is a commercial system.  It is my understanding that there is no warranty on it for residential applications.</p>
<p>With your level of chlorine I would recommend the GreenWave Ultra.  Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uswatersystems.com/shop/products/GreenWave--Ultra-No%252dSalt%2C-Scale-Prevention-%26-Chlorine%7B47%7DChemical-Removal-System.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.uswatersystems.com/shop/products/GreenWave&#8211;Ultra-No%252dSalt%2C-Scale-Prevention-%26-Chlorine%7B47%7DChemical-Removal-System.html</a></p>
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